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	<title>Comments on: Cycling Trendiness: Fetishizing the Dutch</title>
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		<title>By: allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re right, john, there&#039;s no reason to plan for the worst outcome re: bike riding on city streets, especially since i don&#039;t for other risky ventures like driving my car!  other jon, thanks for the tips and definitely come visit while you&#039;re in town!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re right, john, there&#8217;s no reason to plan for the worst outcome re: bike riding on city streets, especially since i don&#8217;t for other risky ventures like driving my car!  other jon, thanks for the tips and definitely come visit while you&#8217;re in town!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks for the mention!

Allison: Best thing would be to ride with an experienced rider like Jon who can make observe and make recommendations on how you can make your bike more comfortable for you. I personally can&#039;t handle bikes that are upright, they put too much strain on my back and behind and don&#039;t allow you to stretch your lungs out. I find that being at roughly 45 degrees with handlebars that allow me to change it up works best for me.

It&#039;s always chilling to read about bike vs. car accidents, but to put it in perspective in the past month many more pedestrians and motorists were killed than cyclists. When booze is involved no one on the streets is safe. That drunk driver on Glendale could very well have hit a motorist or pedestrian had he driven further. It&#039;s best not to plan around the worst possible outcome, we don&#039;t do it for walking or driving.

And yes, come out to Midnight Ridazz or to one of our weekly night rides, it&#039;s a great way to get started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for the mention!</p>
<p>Allison: Best thing would be to ride with an experienced rider like Jon who can make observe and make recommendations on how you can make your bike more comfortable for you. I personally can&#8217;t handle bikes that are upright, they put too much strain on my back and behind and don&#8217;t allow you to stretch your lungs out. I find that being at roughly 45 degrees with handlebars that allow me to change it up works best for me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always chilling to read about bike vs. car accidents, but to put it in perspective in the past month many more pedestrians and motorists were killed than cyclists. When booze is involved no one on the streets is safe. That drunk driver on Glendale could very well have hit a motorist or pedestrian had he driven further. It&#8217;s best not to plan around the worst possible outcome, we don&#8217;t do it for walking or driving.</p>
<p>And yes, come out to Midnight Ridazz or to one of our weekly night rides, it&#8217;s a great way to get started.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s more or less a Dutch bike, but at a much more reasonable price. What kind of bike do you have now? There are a number of things you can fix it up for more comfortable riding including, as you mentioned, switching out the handle bars. Putting in fatter tires is also quite doable depending on how much clearance you have. All depends on what bike you have. I&#039;m in L.A. for a little while and if you want I can come by and take a look at it.

Most bike shops don&#039;t work like car dealers, though. You can&#039;t really &quot;trade&quot; an old bike in. Unless you have something special, I think most bike shops wouldn&#039;t be interested in buying used bikes. You&#039;d have to sell it on something like craigslist.

As for confidence, it just helps to get out there more. Do more leisurely rides on the weekends, or do some of the group social rides like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.midnightridazz.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Midnight Ridazz&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s more or less a Dutch bike, but at a much more reasonable price. What kind of bike do you have now? There are a number of things you can fix it up for more comfortable riding including, as you mentioned, switching out the handle bars. Putting in fatter tires is also quite doable depending on how much clearance you have. All depends on what bike you have. I&#8217;m in L.A. for a little while and if you want I can come by and take a look at it.</p>
<p>Most bike shops don&#8217;t work like car dealers, though. You can&#8217;t really &#8220;trade&#8221; an old bike in. Unless you have something special, I think most bike shops wouldn&#8217;t be interested in buying used bikes. You&#8217;d have to sell it on something like craigslist.</p>
<p>As for confidence, it just helps to get out there more. Do more leisurely rides on the weekends, or do some of the group social rides like <a href="http://www.midnightridazz.com" rel="nofollow">Midnight Ridazz</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are dutch bikes like these flying pigeons that i like? http://flyingpigeon-la.com/shop/  i&#039;m thinking of trading in my current bike because i don&#039;t like riding all hunched over (i suppose i could change my handle bars), and the tires are so thin i feel very wobbly all the time.  on the other hand those dutch and flying pigeons look like they weigh a ton.  and i totally want to bike more, would love to bike to work, but i am SCARED!  just last week some guy on a bike was killed at glendale and sunset.  and i know the more i ride the less scared i would be but it&#039;s really hard to get over the initial fear and knowledge that most cars on the road are not paying enough attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are dutch bikes like these flying pigeons that i like? <a href="http://flyingpigeon-la.com/shop/" rel="nofollow">http://flyingpigeon-la.com/shop/</a>  i&#8217;m thinking of trading in my current bike because i don&#8217;t like riding all hunched over (i suppose i could change my handle bars), and the tires are so thin i feel very wobbly all the time.  on the other hand those dutch and flying pigeons look like they weigh a ton.  and i totally want to bike more, would love to bike to work, but i am SCARED!  just last week some guy on a bike was killed at glendale and sunset.  and i know the more i ride the less scared i would be but it&#8217;s really hard to get over the initial fear and knowledge that most cars on the road are not paying enough attention.</p>
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